Sunday, February 14, 2010

Drug Testing Technologies:Sweat Patch





Drug Testing Technologies: Sweat Patch
A recent innovation in the science of drug testing, the PharmChek Drugs of Abuse Patch - or "sweat patch" - is used to test for various illegal drugs. The sweat patch is affixed to the skin in much the same way as a band-aid, and is worn for up to 14 days. The patch is used to detect the presence of drugs as excreted through perspiration. Individuals required to wear the sweat patch are those on probation or involved in child custody cases. The federal government is currently considering use of the sweat patch in federal workplace drug testing.

The Drug Policy Alliance and DPA Network feel that the use of sweat testing in any of these settings is inappropriate, as published, peer-reviewed research has revealed serious problems with current sweat testing technology. We believe that sweat patch testing poses an unacceptably strong potential for false positive test results. False positives carry serious consequences for tested individuals - sometimes including incarceration or loss of child custody.

If you are involved in a court case where sweat patch evidence is being used, please contact us at legalaffairs@drugpolicy.org. Drug Policy Alliance tracks the use of the sweat patch, and in some cases can assist individuals in challenging the use or admission of sweat patch test results.


How does the sweat patch work?

The sweat patch consists of a gauze pad covered by a protective membrane similar to that of a band-aid. The membrane has an adhesive perimeter that sticks tightly to the test subject's skin. The sweat patch is usually worn on the subject's upper arm. Before application, the subject's arm is swabbed with an isopropyl alcohol rub.

After the patch has been worn for approximately seven to ten days, it is removed and the gauze pad is sent to the laboratory for testing. The lab usually performs "screening tests" for several different drugs, using an immunoassay testing system. If any screening test indicates the presence of a drug, the lab performs a "confirmatory test" for that drug, using the more precise "gas chromatography / mass spectrometry" (GC/MS) testing system. If the confirmatory test finds levels of the drug above the "cutoff" the lab is using, the lab will report a positive test result.

Where is the sweat patch being used?

Many counties around the country use the sweat patch to drug test individuals who are on probation, in drug courts, or involved in child custody cases. PharmChem contracts with these counties to sell them the sweat patch testing kits, to perform the drug tests, and to help the counties defend the results in court.

The Administrative Office of the Federal Courts also has a contract with PharmChem. This contract gives individual federal court districts the option to use the sweat patch when they drug test individuals who are on probation or "supervised release" for federal crimes. Not all federal court jurisdictions use the sweat patch, but many do.


How has the sweat patch fared in court?

Each trial court has the right to make its own decision as to whether sweat patch evidence will be admitted, and how that evidence will be used. A decision by an appellate court would govern the trial courts in that appellate court's jurisdiction, but so far there are no appellate court decisions on the sweat patch from either state or federal courts.

Many trial courts have considered the sweat patch. Some courts have admitted sweat patch evidence, and relied on it in deciding to imprison probationers or terminate parental custody. Others have found the sweat patch insufficiently reliable for these purposes: at least six different federal courts have rejected government efforts to base punitive action on sweat patch test results.

While Drug Policy Alliance tracks court decisions on the sweat patch, many of these cases are confidential, and hardly any have resulted in written court decisions. There is no exhaustive list of court rulings on the sweat patch. Only two courts have issued written decisions that discuss the science behind the sweat patch and are published in official legal case reports.

§ U.S. v. Snyder. F.Supp. 2d. 2002 WL 257381 N.D.N.Y., 2002. This recent federal court decision finds that in certain circumstances, the sweat patch can be environmentally contaminated, leading to a false positive test result. Because the defendant in this case made a plausible case that his positive test results were a product of environmental contamination, the court rejected the use of the sweat patch to revoke the defendant's supervised release.

§ U.S. v. Stumpf. 54 F. Supp. 2d 972 D. Nev. May 31, 1999. This federal court decision finds sweat patch evidence admissible, and rules that it can be used as the basis for revoking an individual's supervised release. This decision was issued prior to the release of several scientific studies that indicate problems with the sweat patch. The decision contains virtually no scientific analysis: the court simply describes the views presented by each side's expert, and then states that the court agrees with the government's expert.

What are the problems with the sweat patch?

The problems with the sweat patch are many:

False positives through environmental contamination. Scientific studies have demonstrated that environmental contamination can produce false positives in the sweat patch.

Naval Research Lab study. This study by the United States Naval Research Laboratory found that the sweat patch is susceptible to environmental contamination through two scenarios:


"Contamination from within": Environmental contamination may occur when a test subject has a small amount of drug residue on her skin where the patch is to be placed, and the isopropyl alcohol rub fails to remove that residue. The sweat patch will then pick up that drug residue, which becomes indistinguishable from drugs excreted through the subject's sweat, resulting in a false positive test result.


"Contamination from without": Environmental contamination may occur when drugs in the environment leak through the protective membrane covering a patch that is being worn. This situation is more likely when the membrane is wet and when it is exposed to a substance with a high ("basic") pH level. This is the environmental contamination scenario that led to the rejection of sweat patch evidence in U.S. v. Snyder .


PharmChem's internal studies have duplicated the results of the Naval Research Laboratory Study in finding that "contamination from within" can occur. PharmChem has refused to release or publish the results of these studies, but the studies were described in detail in the recent court hearing in U.S. v. Snyder .


Studies designed in consultation with PharmChem and conducted at the Center for Human Toxicology in Salt Lake City also duplicated the results of the Naval Research Laboratory Study in finding that "contamination from within" can occur.

False positives through skin storage. A recent study suggests that long-term storage of drugs in skin could lead to false positive test results. See Levisky, Bowerman, Jenkins, and Karch, "Drug Deposition in Adipose Tissue and Skin: Evidence for an Alternative Source of Positive Sweat Patch Tests," Forensic Science International 110 (2000) 35-46. The study indicates that chronic drug users may store drugs under the skin surface. These drugs may be released a long time after drug use so that "a sweat patch, used as a detection device, might falsely indicate that new drug use had occurred." Such false positives are a particular concern to the many individuals who have been heavy drug users, have conquered their drug habits, and are currently being tested by the sweat patch.

False positives during application and removal. Application and removal of the sweat patch are usually performed by non-medical personnel, in a non-clinical setting. Patches are often applied and removed in a probation office by probation officers who have received only a videotaped training. Any sloppiness or failure to follow proper procedures can easily result in false positives. PharmChem officials have themselves admitted that a there is a risk of false positives during application and removal. Indeed, one study indicates that even when application and removal is performed by scientists, in a laboratory setting, contamination can result in false positives. See Cone, Hillsgrove, Jenkins, Keenan, and Darwin, "Sweat Testing for Heroin, Cocaine, and Metabolites," Journal of Analytical Toxicology 18 (1994) 298, 304.)

No dose-response relationship. For any drug testing system, the "dose-response relationship" indicates the test result that one would normally expect to see based on ingestion of a certain amount of a particular drug. This information is central to analysis of the results of any drug test. If one does not know the dose-response relationship for a particular drug in a drug testing system, one cannot make meaningful statements about test results for that drug. And most importantly, one cannot set a "cutoff level" that will distinguish a positive test result from trace contamination of the subject, the sample or the testing system.

No one knows the dose-response relationship for sweat testing. The few attempts at controlled-dose studies have been methodologically inadequate, and have found enormous variability in test results.

In one study, a subject tested at 15 ng/ml after being given a dose of methamphetamine, while the next subject tested at 631 ng/ml, 42 times higher, after being given a smaller dose. (Compare subject # 6 with subject # 7, in unpublished "SCRI" study in PharmChem's FDA submission.) Such wide variations in response between different test subjects are typical. Subjects given 20 ng of methamphetamine, tested six days after ingestion, show results as low as 5.7 ng/ml (SCRI subject # 7) and as high as 905 ng/ml (SCRI subject # 15). These high-end results are in no way aberrational: twenty different tests in the SCRI study alone produced readings above 500 ng/ml; many readings were over 1000 ng/ml.


Substantial disparities exist even with two patches taken simultaneously from a single individual. The SCRI study tested two patches from the lower chest of Subject # 13, nine days after a dose of methamphetamine. One patch tested "negative" at 7.1 ng/ml, while the other tested at 30 ng/ml - a "positive" four times as high. Similarly, the study tested two patches removed from the lower chest of Subject # 5, seven days after the dose of methamphetamine. One patch tested at 34 ng/ml, while the other tested at 185 - more than five times as high.

To our knowledge, neither PharmChem nor any scientist has claimed to understand the dose-response relationship for sweat testing. Nonetheless, PharmChem employs cutoff levels that it claims can distinguish actual drug use from contamination. Without an understanding of a dose-response relationship, however, PharmChem's cutoff level is unreliable.


No regulation of PharmChem's testing program. The federal government does not regulate the use of the sweat patch. PharmChem's sweat testing program is not overseen by the federal government. The federal government does not require PharmChem's sweat testing program to use any particular collection techniques, chain-of-custody procedures, quality control mechanisms, or testing procedures.
All aspects of PharmChem's sweat testing program are designed and operated by a private corporation, without any public checks and balances or quality assurances. No government entity ensures that PharmChem is spending the money necessary to make its tests as accurate as possible. When a company markets a product as a means to catch more drug users, there may in fact be a financial incentive to return positive test results, regardless of accuracy. Without government regulation of PharmChem's testing program, such a dynamic can take effect.


Patch wear problems. The adhesive membrane covering the sweat patch is supposed to bind tightly to the subject's skin, theoretically protecting the sweat patch and preventing tampering. However, subjects routinely report that the membrane does not adhere properly, peeling or rolling up along one or more edges of the sweat patch. This appears to be particularly common when subjects perspire heavily. As far as we know, there have been no studies to determine how often the sweat patch will fail to adhere in real-life wear conditions.

When a sweat patch does not adhere properly, the subject is usually accused of having attempted to tamper with the sweat patch, and is considered as having submitted a positive drug test.

What about rumors that PharmChem has given false testimony about the sweat patch in court?

This memorandum was submitted as part of an ethics complaint filed with the American Academy of Forensic Sciences and the Society for Forensic Toxicologists. It recounts testimony given under oath by Neil Fortner, a vice president of PharmChem, in various court hearings regarding the reliability of the sweat patch. These hearings occurred in cases involving removal of child custody and the threat of incarceration.

The memorandum describes numerous false statements made under oath by Mr. Fortner regarding scientific research on the sweat patch. The memorandum also describes false or strongly misleading statements made under oath by Mr. Fortner regarding his academic credentials. Drug Policy Alliance possesses and can produce copies of court transcripts and other documents referenced in the memorandum.

220 comments:

  1. I can attest personally to the fact that the sweat patch does indeed produce false positives. I am on federal supervision and was ordered to wear the patch. On two separate occassions, I received a positive test result containing THC. I have not smoked weed since 1998. Also, when I was incacerated at CCA in Leavenworth, Kansas there were more than a few women to come through on the basis' of false positives. While we may lie to our probation officers and such, we offenders have no reason to lie to one another.

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    1. Can the patch detect alcohol or just illegal drugs

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    2. I'm on Fed sup_release...and no the patch doesn't test for alcohol...when your get your patch changed...they wipe the area with an alcohol pad first....so they would be contaminating your patch with alcohol if they actually tested for it. My PO breathalyzes me every time I see him.. BECAUSE the patch doesn't test alcohol. I did a bunch of research to find this out... and it has proven itself as being true.

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    3. Your answer is incorrect. The technician wipes the area with Isopropyl Alcohol swabs. The alcohol you drink is Ethyl Alcohol, a completely different molecule. And yes, the sweat patch can monitor whether or not you have consumed alcohol by testing for the presence of Ethyl Glucurinide (ETG), a molecule that is produced if you consume ethyl alcohol while wearing the patch.

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    4. Go on the companies web site that produces the patch. It is pharmchem.com. It will discuss what the patch tests for and unless you know something not readily known, alcohol is not one of,the things tested for. I totally get the pretext of how the patch works. Testing the metabolites along with the parent drug allowing for a more detailed analysis of drugs consumed. Now, whether or not the patch is designed to provide additional information even if it is not routinely tested for, now that is a whole different (and scarey) ballgame

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    5. I had to wear the sweat patch due to "low creat" on my urine...they thought I was flushing myself. I figured the sweat patch would vindicate me, but instead I got two false positives for cocaine. The lab claimed they were true positives and made ME pay for retesting. The judge treated me like a liar, even though my urine was clean. What the patch was picking up was all the stored cocaine in my skin and fat cells from months earlier.

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    6. This also happened to me, they thought I was a liar and I had not used and tested positive for cocaine.

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  2. I was just ordered my my federal probation officer to wear the sweat patch. I have been on probation for over 2 yrs. and only got till Jan of 2013 till Im done and Im really worried that this patch will give out a dirty and they will violate me and back to prison I go. That is not what I want so if anyone could give me any advise as to web sites or what ever for info that there could be a problem with the patch I would greatly appreciate it Thank You

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    1. The best advice is to not take drugs or use alcohol or being around anyone who doing so. Clean up your life, better yourself, and stop hanging around with losers.

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    2. There is no law against someone stating they use drugs. They can't do anything to him as long as he is not caught w actual proof. Therefore not snitching!

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  3. I was just ordered to wear this sweat patch for the sol purpose to go away for the weekend. I am on Drug Court and although I have not done well in the past I am doing very well now. After reading everything i have and researching these patches i do not trust them and think they should be banned from all courts of law until they are completly full proof. These are peopoles lives you are messing with..and for know good reason. Well not for me anyway how are people every supposed to live normal productive lives ..what are we supposed to come back to the company and order sweat patches when we get off papers ..NO!! We learn to live now ..with out people threatening us one day at a time.

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  4. i have a CPS case and i am in DDC Court at the family court and i was ordered to get the drug patch on and i am scared because i heard from alot of people that it gives out false positives and if i get a false positive i will lose my kids what should i do because i am scared even though i have not use for a little over 20 months

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  6. I was recently in a 1/2way house for shoplifting. When they did a routine room search they found contraband in my locker; which is always unlocked and open to anyone who walks into our unlocked room. I am now being charged with a felony paraphernalia for some contraption I have never even seen in my life. I went to jail for 11 days and was realeased on the stipulation of The drug Patch Program Through the Cass County Jail In Fargo, ND. I am so afraid of coming back with a false positive especially because the adhesive of the protective sticker over the patch is almost all the way peeled to the drug patch underneath. Who can I have help me if they try to through me back in jail? I have a daughter who will be turning four on June 15th and I have every intention of having all of this taken care of do I can be reunited with he after all the un acceptable harrassment by the ND court system.

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    1. Fargo cass co jail patch gave several false positives on a CPD case attached so they did not give kids back. She was heavily working out at the gym and has tested at a private testing place also that came back negative the same day a CPS test was positive which was 99.9% imppssible considering she was in a locked PTSD facility for treatment. A guy tested negative as well on a guy drunk 5 days out of 13.one woman took her one side of the patch open due to sweat slipped the patch out put it in freezer in ziploc and put it on 15 min before going to jail to have it. Switched out and she was high on meth the whole 4 months and got her kids back. So I'd calculate they need another source of testing either in conjunction or instead of.
      People: I pray you get off drugs especially when kiddos need parents more than a system of social services and foster placements. I had over 30 foster kiddos I loved them all but they need healthy parents! Hang in there.

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    2. I just found out my first patch tested positive for meth I've been clean 2 weeks prior to receiving the patch. Haven't gotten news on 2nd yet am on 3rd patch now. I report to probation next week. I don't know what's gonna happen. But i absolutely did not use and haven't since I've been on this stupid patch.

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  7. I want to know if casual sex with a potional user could cause my patch to give a false positive.

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    1. Are we talking marijuana or other drugs?? Cause I smoke & I would hate for my husband to be penalized because if me

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    2. Can anyone else expand with more info on this topic please. I am on the patch and I'm very concerned with having a partner that is potentially using, to be more specific THC.

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    3. don't have sex of any kind, you will get a dirty patch! I was in jail wit a girl an she got a dirty just from orel sex. and I got a dirty just having sex wit protection. I think im just gonna lock myself in the basement until this is over... good luck everyone.

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    4. So if false positive is current on sweat patch, would a hair follicle differ? I came back positive June/ July but have not used. Only way I think this happened is sex with partner who used, or environment contamination.

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    5. Did u do the hair follicle? Or what happen! Cus am on the same situation right now

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    6. My boyfriend just got the patch n we had sex one time, I do heroin tho, so he will get a dirty from that?

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    7. NO!!! THE PATCH WILL NOT YIELD A POSITIVE RESULT FROM ANY KIND OF SEX WITH A USER. THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY WOULD BE IF YOUR SEX ACTS INVOLVED RUBBING THE HEROIN ALL OVER THE PATCH OVERLAY.

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    8. Do the patch check for suboxone

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    9. Do the patch check for suboxone

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    10. I'm on Fed sup_release...and no the patch doesn't test for alcohol...when your get your patch changed...they wipe the area with an alcohol pad first....so they would be contaminating your patch with alcohol if they actually tested for it. My PO breathalyzes me every time I see him.. BECAUSE the patch doesn't test alcohol. I did a bunch of research to find this out... and it has proven itself as being true.

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    11. Question I used heroin 2days ago I tested myself today it was palimanary and I got the sweat patch today will that come up wen they take patch off

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    12. Question I snorted a bg of dope 2days ago I quick flushed went to po and got patched will that come up wen the patch comes off

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    13. Iam on fed supervise release and yes i got a dirty patch for having sex with a girl smoking meth.....they say it does not work that way with weed only harder drugs but idk....i also got a dirty one for smoking weed but it diddnt show up till like 3 weeks later

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  8. patch does not work!! I have not been using anything and my patch came out positive. I'm also on medox i urine test at least 3 times a week I also attend perinatal classes and test two times a week. how else can I prove I'm not using?? can I argue against the patch??

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  9. I have tested positive for the drug patch and i have not used. The only person i would be cheating myself as well as my daughter. I have had relapses in the past but I honestly am clean and fear going back to jail. Im a single parent living in california without any assistance from anyone. Yes, I have made mistakes before and thats why i am on probation and i take responsibility for that but now i am being accused of using . Since i been released from jail i test everyday at my outpatient program and i have been clean. My probation also tests me once a week and all the urine samples i given her have been negative. Its really crazy to think that the courts even use something like the patch when its not even federal government regulated.. Who ever will stand by my side to take action for these matters that have interrupted peoples lives in recovery i will be more than happy to contribute.

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    1. I just went to jail for two days last week through drug court program for testing positive for meth. This stuff in reading is crazy. And if I didn't know I was clean I wouldn't believe all that I am reading on contamination and false positives. This is destroying lives. What can we do

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    2. There are two isomers of meth and they are mirror images at the molecular level. The body uses the two isomers differently, though. The D-isomer of meth is illegal and it is stimulating to the body and brain. The L-isomer of meth acts as a decongestant in the body. It is sold as the active ingredient called "levmetamfetamine” in various over the counter decongestant inhaler products. It will give a positive meth test in sweat patches, urinalyses, etc. See my website for more info.

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  10. hi there i am on probation for 8 years i can sware on my kids that i been clean for 1 month and today recovery health care told me i was postve for meth dirth patch i can sware i have not used we all need to take this to the news and report the people who made up this stupid patch

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    1. I understand your pain I hate it aswell

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  11. I will be clean 90 days this December 18th, 2013 and i also received a positive patch October 7th, 2013. I just finished Phase I in Perinatal and all of my urine tests have neen clean through them 2 times a week. My husband is still using and ive had sexual intercourse with him and im scared that my patch wil test positive. This to me is all a joke for the system to make money and take peoples children. Its a brutal n cruel place to be n so unfair!

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  12. I live in Texas and my drug patch costs $50 every 10 days. I have had 3 patches and I have not had a patch stay all the way on. I don't touch it, I don't let it get wet (hardly at all). The patch comes loose on it's own and when I go in, it looks crinkled up. The two times I have gone in, I am told that I tampered with it. I plead with them that "on my kids lives', I DIDN'T! Pardon my language but FUCK this. I am supposed to go in tomorrow and turn in my third patch, well it's the same as the other two. So I guess they will give me a third "dirty". So it's 2014 and my life is at the mercy of this inferior and unreliable product. Sorry but I can't just sit here and let this happen. I hope the owner of this company reads this because I am going to hire the best Jewish Lawyer I can find and I am going to sue this company.. Your product may be good in theory, but it doesn't stay on. I don't know about all of this false positives and etc, but I know I have not tampered with any of these patches and now I am going to be put in jail. I hope that my efforts help everyone that has suffered from this product. I am not the smartest guy in the world, but the words "class action lawsuit" sure comes to mind. Each time they insist that I tampered with it, I ask them to do a urine test, but they won't. I feel like I am living in a no win world. I always thought that the truth shall set you free. I am telling the truth and the opposite is happening. Please spread the word and maybe there is a way we can stop this unfair punishment. If you have any ideas please email me at goodfriend162@yahoo.com. It is clearly obvious that something that costs 5 times as much as a UA and promises accurate results.......has a great deal to do with it. This company is accountable for a whole lot of pain and suffering that their product is causing. Our government is just as guilty as far as I am concerned. This fight may be way too big for me to win, but Davey beat Goliath. I promise that I will do everything in my power to fight this

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    1. You rock! You are smart and I hope this like most pharm companies rot in a desolate, extremely poor, so poor they ain't even GOT BOOKS prisoned hell hole but in today's materialistic, instant gratification world I think you me n McGee know for reals it's gonna slide and there isn't really a damn thing anyone who even wants to do anything can do. We are just to used to pain n get it over quick laying down to have it over. Only way I've ever thought it possible is if all the cool hip up to today's thang got a bee up their bonnets to collaborate and hire a few or a dozen of those expensive know their shit slick talkin gotta gang of interns attorneys to work reduced rate slash that PRO BONO for us lil people. Thatd be the day wouldn't it? I mean it would fly! Heads would spin and there would be mutiny. Or maybe a dad would keep his job and a mom would make breakfast. Who the fuck knows?

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    2. You rock! You are smart and I hope this like most pharm companies rot in a desolate, extremely poor, so poor they ain't even GOT BOOKS prisoned hell hole but in today's materialistic, instant gratification world I think you me n McGee know for reals it's gonna slide and there isn't really a damn thing anyone who even wants to do anything can do. We are just to used to pain n get it over quick laying down to have it over. Only way I've ever thought it possible is if all the cool hip up to today's thang got a bee up their bonnets to collaborate and hire a few or a dozen of those expensive know their shit slick talkin gotta gang of interns attorneys to work reduced rate slash that PRO BONO for us lil people. Thatd be the day wouldn't it? I mean it would fly! Heads would spin and there would be mutiny. Or maybe a dad would keep his job and a mom would make breakfast. Who the fuck knows?

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    3. Ahhg. I agree I'm a 26 year old single proud mother of a beautiful little girl my brother went through the patch I watched him stay clean and he was proud of himself until bam dirty meth patch WTF I know he's clean I can tell by how upset he is and I know my brother. But now I'm on the all mighty do right patch for Mary Jane and I'm a single mom I know I can stay clean but will the patch say otherwise I'm scared I don't want to be away from my kid. What do we as people do. Don't we have the right to stand as one against the government when what they are doing is no longer good to we the people. Do we not have the right to say hey this is inhumane. Or did we completely get stripped of every constitutional right we have. I'm sickened by the way our country has turned on us.

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    4. Can the patch pick up on alcohol or just the illegal drugs

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    5. Can the patch pick up on alcohol or just the illegal drugs

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    6. Can drug patch be put inside alcohol scram monitor to detect drugs

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  13. I'm wearing the patch now that im on probation I've been clean for 4 years I had a patch that came back positive for THC the next few where clean [ I change patch every week] Now I thought marijuana stays in you system foe at least 30 days. Then I was wearing a patch and it started coming off so I put a band aid on it to stop it so when I went to change the patch the said it was compromised because I tampered with it so I had to take a UA I told my PO about it and he said as long as my urine was clean I had nothing to worry about then I get call staying that patch was positive for THC now im on house arrest this is some BS. Now he tells me if I have a another positive I would have more problems.

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  14. I have been reading and reading about this problem. I too have just been put on the patch and the first two lost the logo which was worn off from normal use. This is regarded as tampering. This is free fifty dollars in the companies pocket because they don't test it. You have the right to challenge the use of the drug patch if you feel you have been falsely accused. There is ample evidence to support the false positives. I would find a lawyer and fight the hell out of the use of this patch. profiting from the misfortunate is unethical and immoral. I am hiring a lawyer and will fight fight fight this till the end. Good luck everyone.

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  15. I was wonder wondering if the drug patch test for xanax I been searching and no results just opiates which I'm guessing it will fall on opiates category?

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    1. Patch will detect benzos...

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    2. i just today got a call from my probation officer informing me that i have a dirty patch for meth. the only thing i can think to say n my defense is that it had to b somewhere n my environment i at all times take precautions to not b n a place that this can happen sometimes it is unavoidable when it comes to ur family and thats sad. i rather pee n a cup everyday then wear this patch and have this happen again this is my life this gosh forsaken piece of crap is ruining i wish they would do away with this thing.

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    3. i just today got a call from my probation officer informing me that i have a dirty patch for meth. the only thing i can think to say n my defense is that it had to b somewhere n my environment i at all times take precautions to not b n a place that this can happen sometimes it is unavoidable when it comes to ur family and thats sad. i rather pee n a cup everyday then wear this patch and have this happen again this is my life this gosh forsaken piece of crap is ruining i wish they would do away with this thing.

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    4. Damn lover. I'm about to go an the patch when I start my probation n a wk. I'm scared! I don't want it to come back positive becuz I finally got my life together and don't even wanna c that shit again. I have a 3 1/2 yr old son to worry about, so there's no time to think about that shit. Who is ur po? Love u lover, so much. Does the patch test for alcohol?

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    5. Any result from the benzo test? Im wearing one and taking benzos, i think they do not test for it unless specifically asked to. Any input helps.

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    6. They do not test for benzos, you can even check out their website to find out exactly what they do test for. I have come up dirty for amphetamines but once I showed them my prescription for adderall everything was fine. I am currently on my 5th patch and am prescribed 4Mg of xanex a day since before I began wearing this a and they have never even mentioned to me any sort of positive for Benz is. When I asked why I never came up dirty for it my p.o. said that they don't test for them.

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  16. Drug patch being used in my boyfriends probation violation hearing. He was put on the drug patch April 8th, and so far the first three patches have been positive. I know for a fact he has not used meth since March 2014. He tested positive with the drug patch on 4/23/2014 38.0 ng, 05/07/14 101.0 ng., 05/21/14 71.0 ng. He tested negative for Amphetamines. (How is that possible. I thought Meth was derived from Amphetamine?) The point is he has quit using and hasnt used since the patch was put on him.


    He tore up a floor in one of my Mothers rental houses and ingested dust and ????. He went to the Dr.on 4/10/14 and they prescribed the following: GNP Allergy,

    Proair HFA AER, Benzonatate 200mg, and Azithromycin 250 mg. He was taking about every over the counter cold and flu med available and was not getting any better. He had an infection in his lungs. After fighting fever and absolutely feeling terrible and unable to breath, he went to the emergency room at 3:30 am on 05/09/2014. They thought he had pneumonia and xrayed his lungs, gave him a breathing treatment.(Albuterol-ipatropium) Then they did a CT Scan with contrast and another breathing treatment. He was told he was very sick with bacterial infection in his lungs and that he had Emphsema and COPD. He was prescribed the following Doxycycline HYC 100mg and Albuterol-ipratropiumCCFC free 100 mcg-20 mcg/hh.



    After the patches can back positive he went to lab and submitted to a hair folicle test and the test came back positive for Amphetamines. If the test went back 90 days that is possible, even though his drug patch showed negative for Amphetamines We called and were told they do just a positive or negative test. They dont break it down for usage in 30 day increments, he had already been written up for a dirty UA in March.



    His attorney whom we have paid large amounts of money will no longer handle his case. She told him if he tested dirty that he was on his own. The problem is he is not dirty but the patch has said otherwise. He is a good guy and they are talking about giving him 4 yrs. He has never been in trouble and should of never pleaded guilty to possession in the first place. The law firm believes in the patch, (it is a family business) and there is no convincing his attorney that he has not done any drugs. Her sister owns the lab company who monitors and applies the Pharmchem Drug Patch. It is a very strong conflict of interest.



    The patch is a joke it is not accurate and reliable. It is putting innocent people in jail and I will do whatever it takes to make myself heard of how wrong this device is.



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    1. I've heard that inhalers will show a positive for meth

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    2. I have heard the same thing. I am DHS involved, and I had to put a patch on in March of 2016, did not use and it still came back positive for meth. I had two UAs that said other wise, but DHS and my sons GAL still tried to terminate our rights! Thankfully, we were given another chance, but both my husband and I had to wear another patch for 10 days, just had it taken off earlier this week. Mine started peeling at the edges, so I used med tape to keep it on, and found out when I had it taken off that using extra tape would render the patch "comprimised". You would think that when dealing with something so crucial that they would tell us this when we put it on, or at least give us some kind of paper telling us proper care and maintenance when wearing it!!! I had two UAs done in that 10 days, then another one done the day after I had it removed which all came back clean, Im praying that everything comes back clean this time. I didnt use the last time I had it on, but I still came up positive for meth!! Our visits with my son is riding on this test as well as our permanency hearing in December! So sick of this crap!!!
      Has anyone heard of any Class Action Lawsuits against PharmaChem?

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    3. I have heard the same thing. I am DHS involved, and I had to put a patch on in March of 2016, did not use and it still came back positive for meth. I had two UAs that said other wise, but DHS and my sons GAL still tried to terminate our rights! Thankfully, we were given another chance, but both my husband and I had to wear another patch for 10 days, just had it taken off earlier this week. Mine started peeling at the edges, so I used med tape to keep it on, and found out when I had it taken off that using extra tape would render the patch "comprimised". You would think that when dealing with something so crucial that they would tell us this when we put it on, or at least give us some kind of paper telling us proper care and maintenance when wearing it!!! I had two UAs done in that 10 days, then another one done the day after I had it removed which all came back clean, Im praying that everything comes back clean this time. I didnt use the last time I had it on, but I still came up positive for meth!! Our visits with my son is riding on this test as well as our permanency hearing in December! So sick of this crap!!!
      Has anyone heard of any Class Action Lawsuits against PharmaChem?

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    4. There are two isomers of meth and they are mirror images at the molecular level. The body uses the two isomers differently, though. The D-isomer of meth is illegal and it is stimulating to the body and brain. The L-isomer of meth acts as a decongestant in the body. It is sold as the active ingredient called "levmetamfetamine” in various over the counter decongestant inhaler products. It will give a positive meth test in sweat patches, urinalyses, etc. See my website for more info.

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  17. Sex wont cause positive ws long as patch diesnt come in contact with partner's fluids. Just one drop of sweat will cause positive. Cover your patch yourself. The lining of the patch is made off a semi permeable membrane f
    That allows certain drug metabolites to transfer, but not all. Do your own testing as backup. You have to pay our of pocket, but who cares how much it costs....your denial will never amount to what your own negative result will. I have gotten numerous hair follicle tests done right at the same time the patch was removed that way i will get my negative results the sane time the oatch results come back. So if there ever was a positive i have scientific proof that their shit patch is faulty.id rather be bald and broke paying for negatice proof than sitting in jail crying.

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  18. ben c someone plz help me,570-295-7727

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  19. my daughter was put in jail on a probation detainer,probation put a sweat patch on her over a month an a half ago.A month later they got a pos result on her test.the day they removed the patch she passed a urine test,she also passed four other urine test while the probation was waiting on the patch,when the patch finally came back probation put her in jail.she had also passed another urine test the day she went to jail.i know my daughter has been clean for about 3 months.i need help proveing this patch is a false pos.plz help ben c 570-295-7727

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  20. Ive looked everywhere and nowhere do they say benzodiazepines are tested for. I would love feedback from anyone who took a patch test while taking benzos. Please if you have an opinion that is just a theory of yours please state that in yiur response. Good luck to all!

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    1. I asked my federal probation officer straight out what they test for using the sweat patch. Its a 5 panel test. COC, THC, OPI, AMP, mAMP. I recommend always asking since there are 5 panel tests that only do (AMP/BZO/COC/mAMP/OPI. I believe that would be more for a state test as I know state of California no longer tests for thc. Anyways, If your coming up positive for meth (mAMP), then technically your lighting up 2 columns on the urine test. Both the AMP and mAMP will show. I have trouble peeing in front of people when they have their head so far in my crotch area that they can probably smell my boyfriends sperm! So i moved over to the patch. Was informed last night that my first patch came back positive for meth. I havent used, but know that it became contaminated because my boyfriend does use and we are cuddlers. We spoon everynight after sex. Which I thought the protective piece they put over it would stop that from happening. So now I will be going back. No way to clear myself without snitching him off. sucks

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    2. I'm also on federal probation I been clean for 11 months I have ua twice a week always negative, I was put on a patch for cps and my test came out positive when I haven't been using, and my boyfriend does cocaine idk if that affected me so probation is waiting for the other test results and it comes up higher is BC she thinks I'm using when I know dam right not, but they don't give a fuck cause she said if I'm having contact with someone using is a violation on me

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  21. can the patch test 4 alcohol?

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  22. I failed 2 patches for meth because my girlfriend was using and we would have sex all the time. I hate meth and never use it. These patches are unreliable!!!

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  23. I was wondering is there any way i ca. Make thia as if there was only a cuple times during the week ive woe it.? And does when reax tell how much when or how many days ?and i was never told whsn to get it off . Not about to. Call her and tell her i need to vet tbis off ,i thought that was her joband does it read clean or dirry period. Or juat dirty and them more dirty foes it go up and down?seond please reply
    I have had it a eeek and been dirty the day i put ot on
    And im still dirty off snd on use for a week
    With meth .....i need a a b awer by tommorow and also it's n
    Been wearimg off
    Dince the day i got it can i bkame thja on firtat day of use or because i have it in my skin feom being a hravy usee ?or what could in say? My daughters well being and our lifes togethsr depend on a negitive.??

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  24. Sorry bout the text my keaboard ia freezing

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  25. I would like to hear from anyone that can give me any information about these false positives, as I've been testing positive when I've been staying clean. Please call if you can help my phone number 702-488-0669 this is in Las Vegas

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  26. I would like to hear from anyone that can give me any information about these false positives, as I've been testing positive when I've been staying clean. Please call if you can help my phone number 702-488-0669 this is in Las Vegas

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    1. what exactly does "clean it" mean??

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    2. this is my story, i stay sober for about 2years. finally i got my kids back after my services and my rights were terminated and they put me in the patch. i got a 60 day trial. 2 weeks before my court date.... i get a called from the social worker that one of my patches came out dirty. i was like WTF*** THAT they have to remove my kids cus i was in a 60 day trial. my brother took them but i had to leave.... all i could think was my boyfriend and smokes regularly. But HOW? he didnt even smoke when i was around. well i guess because we had intercourse, he'll smoke in the room and ill come in later. i guess his sweat will come ti my pores and that why they came out dirty even my friends from the progam doubted of me. no one believe me. i even was thinking of smoking. then one of my friend told me to clean it. and i was like what? but why if am not using? she said well at least so u wont turn it dirty ones anymore. so she made sense. here are the steps:
      you will need:
      soap or shampoo
      a drying towel
      blow dryer
      tweezers
      and runing water
      amd make sure u use gloves
      first step:
      u peel that transparent sheet not all the way, just like they do it when they are gonna change it. take that white pad like they do. take it off with the tweezers grab it from the very corner do not press too hard cusu will leave they mark of the tweezers in the pad. next u put lil soap and with ur two finger just rub it all over. they thru the running waterrinse it several times make sure is out of soap. then pad dry with the towel then dry it with the blow dryer oce its dry place it back like it was put the plastic sheet back. and if it doesnt glue back like before put something around it like a cloth and tape it around it so presses hard i just leave it overnight so it look like stick to my skin. note. clean it a day before u go change it.

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    3. Does this ^^ really work?

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  28. Does anyone know FOR SURE: does the pharmchem sweat patch test for suboxone? I know when I get the patch changed and I sign the piece of paper, it says to test for the expanded opiates panel, but I can't seem to get a clear answer on whether or not suboxone is tested for? Does anyone know FOR SURE?? Any help would be appreciated. The quicker the better! -Drug Court client

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  29. Past drug use, can the patch test positive for past drug use? & if so how far back? I haven't used in a few weeks but I'm an addict in recovery .im only human and live day to day with sobriety.

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  30. The patch does NOT check for suboxone. I've done a ton of research on this recently and it does not. The expanded opiate panel includes: hydromorphone, hydrocodone, oxymorphone, & oxycodone. The patch tests for opiates, meth/amp, thc, pcp, & cocaine. It does not test for subs. I'm sure of it. You can check on pharm chems pharm chek website as well if you want more info. Hope that helps you drug court client. Believe me, I was looking for the same answer recently and finally got some closure on the subject.

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    1. Sorry to get back to you so late. I found out, first hand, that the patch definitely doesnt test for suboxone. I guess I was just more scared that taking subs would make me test positive for something else, like opiates or something. But then I saw that the patch was automatically confirmed. We change our patch once a week and when we change it, we have to take a urine screen. I think the urine screen is to test for everything that the patch doesnt test for. However, I dont think they test for suboxone in the urine screen that frequently bc it is a very expensive test. So, that means the patch doesnt test for things like tramadol and benzos as well? -Drug Court client

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    2. the urine screen is back up method that any logical testing site would do to ensure accuracy. The patch is meant to releive the stress and hassle of having to ua 3 plus times a week. Especially for people who dont have a car but do have a job. Since most sites only allow the testing during certain hours. So if your on the patch, and not dropping a bottle at the same time, DEMAND to drop one. That way you have a back up test to prove that the patch is faulty. Just know that all courtrooms be it family or criminal, take a ua result as 100% accurate. No potential false positive claims there

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  31. Pharm chems site says the patch can detect drug use from 2-3 days prior to applying the patch as well as any use during the time you're wearing the patch. So if you haven't used in a few weeks you should be fine.

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  32. The quality of your blogs and conjointly the articles and price appreciating.Synthetic Urine Guide

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  33. Can the patch for drug court test for alcohol??????

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  34. how does the patch work for marijuana. how far back does it test? if my urine is clean will the patch be clean as well??

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  35. Hi I have been advised by counselor that I will be patched before I can continue onto the next phase to complete drug court. I participate in random monitored drug test weekly. I have been recently in trouble for testing positive in November but have been clean since. In actuality I have been smoking since October daily until today. I wanted to know what are my options to passing? niacin with increasing my metabolism, lots of antioxidants eating plenty of meals and breakfast, lots of water, exercise, and sauna time help me? I am to be patched randomly in the next 3 weeks.

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  36. Can kratom shots known as green vein make you fail a drug test for alcohol? I was recently tested and it was positive for alcohol...should I get it sent off?

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    1. YES! Always challenge any drug test that gives a false positive. That is your right and could possible be the only leg you,have to stand on

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  37. Does the patch test for alcohol

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    1. THE TEST DOES NOT TEST FOR ALCOHOL, SUBOXINE, OR BENZOS!!

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  38. If the arm was not cleaned with an alcohol swab before the patch is applied, could that cause the patch to not stick and fall off? The medical assistant who applied my patch both times had no idea what she's doing. Had to go in because it fell off 2 days early and now I'm afraid I'm going to be blamed for tampering with it when I barely touched the stupid thing and only took one shower...

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  39. I've came back positive seven Harlem 20x only used two times the patch is fake

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  40. Ive been on Federal Probation 6 months and all my urine tests came back negative, I have had not used since 11/8/15, almost 4 months and yesterday my p.o. claims that my patch that was taken off from 2.5.16 was possitive for meth. I havent used. So this they consider to be my 3rd dirty. 2 of my 3 dirty tests were from the patch. Now Im waiting for results from 2 more patches that were put on me after that, and I now have another one on. Ive been doing everything and following everything instructed to do thru probation. As of now every outpaitient meeting I attend, which is 2 times a week, i am going to ask them to test me everytime, so that I have some back up when this patch comes out positive. I dont want to go back to jail and have honestly been clean since 11.8.15... I am also on Zoloft and Saroquell, would this show as false positive, should i talk to an attorney, dr, or what.

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    1. As with any drug test, you have the right to challenge it. If your probie is going to fill,out the paperwork to have your revoke your liberties, then I would surmise you are going to need an atty. for the life of me, I find it hard to believe, as much data and research that has been done on this drug detection program showing up to an 40% false positive rate, and that is just ONE of the many established problems, what court, judge, etc, would continue to back this program while not taking all of the data showing the problems into consideration. I know, I am sure it happens everyday, but if it does, it does not make a bit of sense and brings a person to a bigger question of why? Why would the courts protect this program by refusing To acknowledge how problematic this patch system is? Why would the courts continue to destroy people's lives. Take their children away, incarcerate them, revoke bonds And probation based on a testing program that is problematic to say the least? Talk about injustice. Makes on wonder who owns the company producing these patches, or what kind of kick backs are made, or money being made, who,is on the board of directors, conflict Of interest. the list goes in and on

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  41. how can you really beat the patch

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    1. once applied, lock yourself in a room, and do not leave it until you get it changed. no visitors either

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  42. My son is currently on the sweat patch in Cass county was currently told he first patch came back nagitve and his second one came back positive for THC and Methamphetamine and his third one positive for THC had 1.5 ng witch is nothing guy at the Cass county jail that runs this program told my some and my mom that if his next one is dirt he's putting him in jail now here's the thing my son straight up told the guy his first one should of been dirt smoked weed the hole time with the first on and that one was clean didn't smoke at all with the other 2 and the kid has not touched meth in his life he hates that drug cuz it tore his family apart as a child so he don't care what drug a person does just don't do meth so hasn't touched meth ever has had no THC since first patch witch came up clean so not just one falls positive but 2 and the one that should of been positive was negative if put in jail $5000 cash to get him out we are scared to go in to get patch changed next week because of this talk to his attorney just say if anything happens let me k ow right away he is gonna start going in every couple days for urin test so we have them please help what can we do if anyone can help me or give me some advice on what to do please reply or email me chairbear53@gmail.com

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  43. Does the patch test for alcohol?

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    1. No it doesn't. I've been on the patch for two months now and drink every weekend. I asked the tech at the probation office and she even told me no it doesn't test for alcohol

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  44. Does the patch test for alcohol?

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  45. Does cleaning it work?

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  48. OK..this is my second time on DC. I NEVER received a dirty urine test the first time and I am on the last phase this time. I am going on vacation this week and was told they are putting the patch on me.

    I plan on Swimming in Florida..I know I am going to sweat... Yes Ii will be having sex... and I definitely will NOT get high or use any substance. I will report back on this forum when I get my results.

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  49. Does the patch test positive for acid?

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  50. Nice post thanks for sharing with us i like your blog.

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  52. i have been on probation and was put on a drug patch to monitor that i wont use drugs, well most of the results came back positive as a result of that the court revoked my probation and added 2 more years to my sentence, i myself went to get a hair follicle test and came back negative but my probation officer did not care for it, now she is taking me back to court again and again i took another hair follicle and results are negative and she still revoking my probation. if my probation is revoked i will go in for 10 years, this is completely unfair. i need help

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    1. My fiancé has a federal probation officer that is perhaps the biggest prick there is. He had my boyfriend arrested for failure to appear when he (the officer) made no effort to contact him with instructions to report, nor has he made any effort to make any drop ins. I do not know how probation works, but in his case, the probation officer contacts him to report, a surprise come in immediately report. My boyfriend has not been instructed to report every month, or call or anything. Well anyway, it is obvious based on things that have happened, his probation officer is sabotaging him, setting him up for failure. And, since my b.f. Was successful getting to bond out, (which is unheard of) his prick of a probation officer is furious and really has it out for him. Enter, all of a sudden, his probation officer felt it necessary to incorporate the use of the drug patch. As if I cannot identify his motivation for implementing this! Anyway, what I am doing is researching the drug patch and forwarding it to his attorney. There is up to a40% rare if false positives, no research done to determine how long a drug is stored in a persons skin, causing false positives when the person is not using. Anyway, for my b.f. And based on my reading into what you posted, possibly you too, I am putting together a defense showing the officer is engaging in unethical and probably illegal behavior, activity, in an attempt to cause my b.f.s probation to be revoked as well as incarceration. I have some situations that can be proved and put the probie in a bad light and if it does not prove out right his intent, it certainly will make the judge question his integrity. This drug patch program will be another point questioning his motivation. All I can do,is,present all,of this to the atty and go from there. At the very least, I hope it will allow a request for another probation officer. This is a case of a truly nasty individual who lies to make it appear as if you the person on probation is not complying. This is just an example of numerous problems. Also, my bf did not have any drug related charges. They confiscated his electronics to keep,for a week and check for forgery. On what I am not sure. When they went thru every electronic, iPhone etc. and did not find or uncover anything illegal, they or he violated my bf text messages, from what we were told they had rights to access that was not one of,their rights...anyway, when Mr. Personality could not find anything incremenating on my b.f. He went thru his text messages and had forensics recover as far back as possible. He read everything. From that point, he then accused my b.f. Of drug use. And now, he is insisting on the patch after he is angry cause bail was allowed. He made numerous inappropriate comments, remarks, etc. but I digress. It sounds like if you do not have any atty, you are going to need one. I shared this with you hoping I included something that you might find beneficial.

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  53. What happens if the cotton part of the drug patch gets wet? Will it wash away any contaminant residing in the patch? After 3 to 4 days the patch adhesive is pretty much no longer there and the cotton pad gets soaked when I take a shower, will it still test positive?

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    1. what happened? did it come back clean?

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  55. I need some actual court cases where the patch results have been proven unreliable and a farse. Ive been on the patch since sept 1. Patches were coming back positive for meth at first because I had been taking prescribed Zantac. My UAs were also positive but when sent off to the lab came back negative since it was because of the Zantac. My bond was revoked and I went back to jail. After one week the judge decided to have me UA tested again. Since while I was in jail They were giving me my Zantac...my test obviously came back positive for meth. So, she released me again andtold me to change medications. Since then I have not taken a single thing other than a rolaids here and there. Not even a tylenol. AND YET....Im still having positive patches! WTF? Last time I went to see my supervisor he said I was STILL positive and motioned to have my bond revoked AGAIN. The next day I had court and the judge, since Ive been assigned a new judge, dropped the motion but is leaving the patch on me and my new judge can decide whether to leave it on me or not. So now every Monday Im gonna be worried about if Im going to walk out my supervisors door to go home or be escourted back to jail. Especially since I know Im not doing anything wrong so I dont know how to keep this from happening.
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    1. Did u find out the answer to your question? I'm curious as well

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  56. Update....I see my bond supervisor every Monday. My last patch was left on me for two weeks. So, on Monday #1 this patch was put on. On Monday #2 they left it on me, I went to Dr and had a blood test done. On Monday # 3 I received blood test results, which was negative for everything. Went to see supervisor and he removed my patch. While there he also gave me a U.A. which also came back negative for everything. After leaving I returned back to my doctor and had another blood test done in order to cover the second week of my patch. Im sure it will also come back negative as everything else has (except patch). I don't know if everything Ive done to cover my a** will matter to bond supervision or not but how can they tell me Im out doing drugs ONLY because this patch says so when I have 2 blood tests and a ua that says Im not?

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    1. If your probation officer is a jerk, one who is a probation officer for,the sole reason to jerk people around and exert unnecessary levels of control over people and their life, all of that will not matter. It really depends on the probation officer and whether he/she is human or was born from a pod. If the probation officer does not want to consider your additional drug screens, then all this person has to do it revoke your bond or probation a d off you go. Now, if the judge wants to consider the evidence, then the judge will, but that will be AFTER you have been incarcerated and AFTER you remain incarcerated until a date and time is put on the judges books for your hearing. From my experience, which is thru my b.f. Probation officers have too much control and power. No checks and balances. One. Of two things needs to happen, either they need to put these officers thru a rigorous psych exam prior to hiring and then yearly throughout employment, do some major overhauls with the type personality of person hired for this position as it seems most if not all are major narcissist, and if not narcissist, the borderline personality disorder. The second overhaul should be more checks and balances instead of these officers having carte Blanche say so with their supervisor, and their supervisor, all the way up to the judge, taking their word on everything with no questions asked and no confirmation or investigstions. You know power absolutely results in absolute corruption. When a person does not have to worry about any checks and balances or being questioned or asked to prove assertions, I do,not have to take up space explaining what the customary outcome usually is........yet, when it comes to police officers, probation officers, just to name a few, they have the power to absolutely destroy people's lives with just what comes out of their mouths......without proof, nothing. If you ask me, that is too much power for any flawed human to have. And when this power goes to their head, and ugly vindictiveness joins in, God help us!!

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  57. Can someone please tell me if they know for a FACT if the patch can test for alcohol??
    I am going away and i have a strong feeling my PO will patch me!! Please help!!!

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    1. The patch DOES NOT TEST for alcohol. REPEAT, the patch DOES NOT TEST for alcohol.

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